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Poster: He Live's Date: Dec 5, 2007 1:55pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: DIH: don't forget the 1971 GOODS:12/4-5/71

day in history of interest:



a good run at the felt forum in the basement of MADISON SQUARE GARDEN.........first night in atlanta, (next stop after NY) we get a fun, geeky intro by bobby weir...(cut him slack, what? is he 22 now?):

[...]FOX THEATRE, ATLANTA (yeah...that one)

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Poster: William Tell Date: Dec 5, 2007 6:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: DIH: don't forget the 1971 GOODS:12/4-5/71

Hey--this reminds me: can you or GoP explain (suppose I could 'google it" but) what exactly the Felt Forum was? Was it part of the Garden, literally? Was it really the "basement?" I always assumed it was literally "it" but wondered about the name...

I have always wondered...


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Poster: He Live's Date: Dec 5, 2007 8:42am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: DIH: don't forget the 1971 GOODS:12/4-5/71

sorry man, can't find any good info on exactly where the theatre is in relation to the main garden....but it is very small by comparison, i think 5,000 or less and i think i was inaccurate, the theatre is more likely an appendage than "in the basement"

wamu theatre seating

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Poster: deadhead66 Date: Dec 5, 2007 7:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Felt Forum

Here's a blurb from Wikipedia. I have no idea whether the information below is correct. Wikipedia entries are known for their rampant inaccuracies and high bullshit quotient.

Anyway, here goes:

"Today's Madison Square Garden is more than just the arena. Other venues at the Garden include:

"The WaMu Theater at Madison Square Garden, which seats between 2,000 and 5,600 for concerts and can also be used for meetings, stage shows, and graduation ceremonies, and was also the traditional home of the NFL Draft until 2005, when it moved to the Jacob Javits Convention Center after MSG management opposed a new stadium for the New York Jets. It also occasionally hosts major boxing matches on nights when the main arena is unavailable. No seat is more than 177 feet (54 m) from the 30-foot-by-64-foot stage. There is an 8,000-square-foot lobby at the theater. When the current Garden opened in 1968, the Theater was known as the Felt Forum, in honor of then president Irving [Mitchell] Felt. In the early 1990s, it was renamed the Paramount, after Paramount Communications (which had previously been known as Gulf & Western), which then owned the Garden (and, at the time, Paramount Pictures.) The theater received its next name of The Theater at Madison Square Garden in the mid-90s, after Viacom bought Paramount, and sold the MSG properties to a group consisting of ITT and Cablevision, which each owned 50% of the Garden. In 1997, ITT sold their share to Cablevision, giving the cable company full control of the venue. On May 17, 2007, the theater received its current name due to a naming rights deal with Washington Mutual."

Hope this helps.

Best to all,

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Dec 5, 2007 8:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Hindsight is 50-50

Sorry, had to write that apropos of SDH's mistaken theory that it is 20-20. That don't add up to 100.

The Felt Forum was/is an interesting niche in the MSG complex. It's a theater style place with a stage and seats as you would find at any theater. Very nice sound.
I saw several different shows there. I saw the NRPS show in 1973 a which Jerry, Bobby, and Donna guested on their day off from the Nassau Coliseum run.

I also caught the full December, 1971 run. I had seen the new line up at the three Ohio shows (including the Dick's Pick show) and was impressed with Keith. But now Pig was back with the band--not quite at the top of his game--but it was good to see him back. The rest of the band were at the top of their game--damn fine run. They broadcast--the 7th, if I recall correctly--with the one off "Muddy Water."